ya’ll need more of dat hope stuff
Now there’s something I never thought I’d hear uttered.
Two words. Such simple words at that, and they carry so much weight in them. Atrocitus is right. He is completely justified in hating the Guardians, in wanting justice for his decimated zone and Hal admits that straight to his face. And then he points out where all that hatred and “righteous vengeance” goes wrong.
Hating those who’ve wronged you is not bad, nor is wanting justice for those who’ve been hurt. Trying to obtain that justice by ways of cataclysmic destruction is though. So is destroying innocents to get you’re revenge. Doing the exact same thing that the people who hurt you did, to others, no matter what your reasons are, is wrong.
Justified hatred and the quest for true justice are real and large parts of life that often get pushed aside in our desire to categorize everything into black and white. Doubly so in media marketed towards younger audiences.
Not here though.
Atrocitus is right. It’s his methods that are wrong.
It really impressed me that at the end of the first story arc we had it very clearly stated that while his methods may have been wrong, Atrocitus’s anger was right, and the Guardians’ past actions were horrifically in the wrong.
It is so incredibly important that these sort of messages —that good intentions can result in bad works, that bad actions don’t always mean the point behind them is entirely wrong, that everyone has within them the capacity for both right and wrong and actions have consequences— that the world is infinitely complex and formed of a myriad of colors, shades, and hues aside from a simple black and white, good versus evil palette make it into our “children’s shows”. If we can impress these sorts of thoughts and consideration of events and circumstance on a younger audience they’ll more likely to grow to be better and more considerate people who understand things are rarely (if ever) so simple as being just entirely right or entirely wrong. It’s crucial that our “children’s shows” treat their audience like people capable of thought and understanding nuance. People will grow to be what you expect of them. If you treat them as though they should not be able to think, they will not bother to.
EDIT: I encourage checking the notes of this post to see the various responses on this, because I think you can see how much the inclusion of this line and everything that lead to it meant to the Fanterns.
This show in general is surprisingly mature in its handling of the good/bad hero/villain dichotomy—I swear, when Ganthet said, “[H]istory is written, or unwritten, by the victors,” my brain about exploded not just because it’s just such a powerfully true statement, both in the real world and in the context of the show, but because it was the supposedly good guys who were guilty of covering up atrocities they’d committed. Not very often we get such nuanced treatment of villainy and heroism in media meant for children.
Yes, yes, and yes.
I love the realness of this show, that every action has a consequence, whether it be good or bad. That there is true evil in the universe, but that evil is caused by sin of others. That no one is exempt from suffering (even if they are pure, because the universe is broken by sin) so they must choose wisely - the pain of discipline or the pain or regret.
There is so much truth and wisdom in this show and I love it, and I love that this show is for the youngins, because the best quality entertainment should be for our children.
It’s such a powerful line in part because it demonstrates Hal’s development over the course of the first story arc. Truth be told, I wasn’t focusing a lot of my attention on Hal - since I was so engrossed with the other characters - until he said that line. Then it really hit me, the differences between Hal in episode 1 and Hal in episode 13.
Hal starts off as a self-assured force of justice in the universe. In other words, he knows he’s a hero and doesn’t seem to worry about much besides the task at hand. But his one-dimensional thinking can get him into trouble (like when he’s so focused on beating the ‘evil’ Atrocitus he forgets that there is a planet full of sentient life that needs rescuing).
Initially, Hal is a character that acts on personal instinct and pre-conceptions. Many of these pre-conceptions are based on the information he receives from the Guardians, and he accepts the Guardians at their word. He believes that the Guardians are inherently good (and by extension as a Green Lantern his actions justified) to the point where after his meeting with Cleric Loran in Ep. 7 he believes Atrocitus must be preaching propaganda, since he cannot yet envision the reality that the Guardians are capable of engineering a massacre. As a member of the Green Lantern Corps, he is expected to do what he is told and follow their protocol; yet he frequently earns the Guardians’ displeasure when he acts like a loose cannon.
No other Green Lantern in this show so far would have been able to embrace his or her enemy’s perspective and tell Atrocitus “You’re right.”
His ability to think outside the box, to break the rules and to empathize with others are what I admire most about him. In fact, many of the instances where Hal chooses diplomacy over violence results in a positive outcome down the line. Particularly, his decision to spare Razer’s life, rescue him from prison and make him a part of the crew might have tipped the scale in the campaign against the Red Lanterns. Razer ends up rescuing Hal, Kilowog and Aya at different times in the narrative, helping them to infiltrate the mainframe of Shard (albeit through his selfish act of running away), and using his technical expertise to accomplish their goals.
(Let’s not forget all the other Hal moments too: learning from the Nadari about the yellow stones and rescuing Kilowog, listening to Goggan’s story rather than write him off as crazy, etc.)
To me, this is the most powerful thing a main character can offer in the children’s show - the willingness to see things from another’s perspective, and the ability to admit when your viewpoint is wrong.
There’s also a lot to be said about the moral ramifications of Atrocitus’s actions (and motivations for his actions), but that will have to wait for another post…
Reblogging for some of the most gorgeous commentary ever.
The comments just keep getting better and better.
Warner Archive Announces “Green Lantern: The Complete Animated Series” Blu-ray
More details on the Blu-ray release:
- Release Date: March 18th, 2014
- All 26 episodes will be included.
- Running Time: 572 minutes (9 hours 32 minutes)
- MSRP: $29.99
- Closed Captioning: Yes
- Product Language: English
- Original Soundtrack Language: English
- Aspect Ratio: 16x9
Pre-order via Amazon for $20.99
If this follows the pattern of the DVD releases, the discs will be Region 1 and subtitles and audio options will likely include English, Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai.
Welp, cat’s out of the bag. I’m Aquaman in Infinite Crisis. Can I get an OUTRAGEOUS up in here?
What’s GLTAS’s Hal Jordan up to recently?
He’s getting his feet wet in an adventure called, Infinite Crisis. Check it out.
This appeared earlier today on Amazon.com.
Further details are forthcoming soon…
The listing says “572 minutes” which would translate to 26 episodes (episodes are 22 minutes).
I bluehope this is real.
Giancarlo said on twitter that it’s the real deal.
FANTERNS ASSEMBLE. Go forth and pre-order. :)
Fanterns have long awaited news of an HD release of the unjustly canceled Green Lantern:The Animated Series. The series has been available on DVD in two parts for some time, but since the show aired at a higher resolution, the lack a of a high-definition release has felt like an additional slap in the face in addition to the show’s cancellation itself.
No release date is listed, but the Blu-ray edition can be pre-ordered on Amazon now.
BUYING ALL THAT SHIT
Do you realize how gorgeous the show looks like in HD????
Excuse me while I go hit pre-order and cry tears of joy.
With the quality and detailed little emotive movements present throughout this show, not to mention the kick butt constructs and amazing scenery — I’ve been hoping for a Blu-Ray release to do this show justice!
#GLTAStheMusical by Giancarlo Volpe collected and in order for your reading ease.
THIS IS REAL PEOPLE! THIS IS NOT A DRILL! A TWITTERSODE IS COMING UP!
It’s happening now Fanterns!
Is it wrong for me to love this show so much? Since I work on it? Too bad. Here’s the NEW #SPOOKSVILLE PROMO!
New episodes start March 8!!!
Miss GLTAS? So do we.
However, the Fanterns beloved Producer/Writer Jim Krieg is working on Spooksville these days, so that’s worth giving a shot if you’re missing his voice as a creator.
GLTAS ~ heroic sacrifices